its a very immotive topic that prevents people from thinking a lot of the time... People have preconcived opinions and stick to them.

But they've broken US law so why should Mexican taxpayers have to foot the bill? Going to America illegally isn't a crime in Mexico as far as I'm aware.

America's prisons are already full to overflowing because of America's ridiculously draconian laws on matters like drugs, or the stupid "three strikes" law that some states have. The fact is that just because there is a law for something doesn't make that law right or just. Laws are made by man and often it is immoral to observe the law.

I feel EXTREMELY sorry for the children but it is not our fault that their parent were a bunch of morons and decided to come here illegally. We would not have to worry about the kids if the parent had not been so dumb.

Also, once again I did not say to send them to jail, I said sent them home as if it were the jail.

Send them Home = Send them to jail

As to preconceived ideas, you are very right indeed Rince, it takes me back to the God topic, and to the argument of if Michael Jackson molested those kids or not, once you have an opinion...you become to suborn to see other viewpoints.

i can understand why people do it though... If you want a better life for youself and your family are you saying you wouldn't do anything to make sure you lived in an advanced western society like America or the UK... i know that if i had been denied an imigration aplication i would try and get in any way i could...


Also here is an honest question... When i say Illegal immigrant, what picture do you see? Black, White, Hispanic etc etc?

I see all kinds of people. When I think of Europe, Mexico, China ect.

Well you see I'm Mexican but I luckily havent the need to immigrate to some other country (and if I hado to it wont be the US) but we are sort having a crisis and if at first economy wasnt really healthy now its pretty fucked up, and the US inmigration (the one that decides who goes legally and who doesnt) are a bunch of idiots, it costs about 100 dollars per person and imagine someone whose weekly income is about 30 dollars (which is above many families across the country) and they have to take a wife and 3 kids, plus i would say half the requests are denied by paranoid white trash.

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oh such an epic fail statement.

Why? Well, because for a start, things are slightly different now than they were in 1776. Mexico can't exactly be supported by a slave-based economy like America was back then, can it?

Making a country better takes time, effort, money and a real desire to improve things. It's helped by the fact that American companies regular close down factories in the US and move them south of the border, "outsourcing" them to places where the staff take a very very small wage in comparison to the US employees. Once you get stuck in a job, it's not easy to get out of it. I mean really how can the average man in the street improve Mexico? What would you suggest? Fuck, why don't you just turn down all asylum seekers with that answer?

Very naive viewpoint.

Although I do greatly admire groups like the Zapatistas who are trying to actively push for positive change inside Mexico, for the indigenous people and for ALL citizens.

They would be poor either way, and see most of them want to have kids thats part of their culture.

OK, here's a bit of...fuck, I don't know what you call it. Demographics related nonsense. People have lots of kids so that some of them actually survive to adulthood. That's because child mortality rates in 2nd & 3rd world countries are appallingly high. So you see, you have lots of kids to ensure that you have a larger chance of having people who will support you when you are too old to go out and work. That's the way it works. Not so much an issue for us comfy folk in our first world countries.